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Thank you for your nominations! Please help us sort them - we have some questions about nominations we've received so far.

QUERIES POST ONE

Alice In Wonderland - Lewis Carroll - the Jubjub Bird is nominated under its canonical, Jubjub (Hunting of the Snark). We will approve this as Jubjub (Alice in Wonderland) since the Jubjub is mentioned in Jabberwocky. Nominator, if you'd like a creator to refer to the Hunting of the Snark, you can suggest it to them as an optional extra, but please don't offer or request it unless you're also okay with sticking to Alice in Wonderland material.

Ancient Greek Religion & Lore - this is a broad label, currently including Chiron, Charicio, the Phoenix, and the Sphinx. Are these all found in a single text? Could you specify what source(s) you're interested in, please?

Japanese Archipelago Folk Religion & Lore - this is a broad label, currently including Bake-danuki, Bakeneko, Kitsune, and Tomoe Gozen. Are these all found in a single text? Could you specify what source you're interested in, please?

The Queen - Anna Wahlenberg - apologies; we may have rejected this by accident, but we can't find a public domain source for it. Are you able to help us find a source please?

The Selkie Bride (Folk Tale) - Since there's a wide variety of characters nominated for this tale, could you please confirm what version you're interested in? Our most recent source is a Scottish version: https://tracscotland.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/The-Selkie-Bride.pdf which does not include a farmer or other selkies. (We've also previously approved an Icelandic version. What did you have in mind?

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Tagset! Tagset!

Nominations open! 4 fandoms, 0-4 characters per fandom! Nominations will end Feb 9th at 11:59pm Central.

Apologies for the delay, circumstances occurred.

Nominations FAQ )


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Thanks for your wonderful nominations! We're working through the last approvals and making corrections - please help us polish up this tag set!

Genesis 3 (The Bible) - This nomination contains relationships. Nominator, we're happy to approve the characters Yahweh, Eve, Adam, and The Serpent for you to request, but your author is only guaranteed to match on one character and you aren't guaranteed to receive a ship. Please let us know if you'd like to change your nomination with that information in mind. (Also, do you have a preferred version of the text? Let us know if so! We will approve as the King James version if you have no preference.)

Legends of the Wild Hunt - From the character nominations, it looks like you have a specific text in mind, but we're not sure what that is. Nominator, could you please help us find the text that includes a Wild Hunt Sympathizer and a Village Witch Keeping the Wild Hunt at Bay? Or suggest another version?

Little Red Riding Hood (Fairy Tale) - Nominator, we've already approved the the Brothers Grimm version, Little Red-Cap. If we don't hear from you, we will change the (Fairy Tale) nomination to the the Perrault version. Please let us know if you'd like a different version instead.

Odin Goes to Mimir's Well: His sacrifice for wisdom - Thanks for choosing a clear title that helps us find which part of the myths you're referring to! Would you prefer for the source text to be the Völuspá, or the Prose Edda (which refers to the Völuspá) or something else? Could you also clarify which giant you mean, please? We will also not approve relationships here.

Song of Solomon (The Bible) We are happy to approve a Beloved | Him and a Beloved | Her as characters, but will not approve the relationship tag as well. (Also, do you have a preferred version of the text? Let us know if so! We will approve as the King James version if you have no preference.)

Tam Lin - Anonymous (Song) - While we've approved this with no version information before, there are a lot of different versions. Nominator, do you have a preference? Please let us know if so!

Tom Thumb (Fairy Tale) - Nominator, as far as we can tell, this story does not have Thumbelina in it - that is a separate story. We will approve a nomination, without Thumbelina, based on Perrault, unless you have a different preferred version of the tale.

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Links to texts are always welcome! So are corrections - please tell us if you notice errors!
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(Nominations closed 11 February.)

See nominations HERE at the tag set!

Your nominations create the set of texts that can be offered and requested when signing up. The tagset is user-chosen and changes from year to year. You don't need to nominate to sign up, but you do need to nominate to ensure that what you want is in the tag set.

You can nominate up to 4 fandoms and up to 4 characters each.

Nominations guidelines can be found here in the FAQ, resources (such as links to the text of various stories) can be found here, and of course feel free to ask the mods anything at: onceupon@fandom.exchange

Please be specific when nominating - narrow your tale down by author or origin. Many fairytales have multiple versions and we only allow specific versions so everyone is working from the same variation. This might mean submitting a tag that isn't canonical on the archive already - it's okay if it doesn't come up as a dropdown option.

Good: Beauty and the Beast - Joseph Jacobs
Bad: Beauty and the Beast (Fairytales)

We welcome comments on this post to clarify which version you mean. Links are great, especially if you think we may have difficulty finding the source.

Please check this comm during nominations (end Feb 11th) to see if we have questions for you. And then, Feb 18th, SIGN-UPS!

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We really appreciate links to your chosen canons for the final spreadsheet.
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NOMINATIONS! ARE! OPEN!

Tagset is HERE!

Your nominations create the set of stories that can be offered and requested when signing up. The tagset is user-chosen and changes from year to year. You don't need to nominate to sign up, but you do need to nominate to ensure that what you want is in the tag set.

You can nominate up to 4 fandoms and up to 4 characters each.

Nominations guidelines can be found here in the FAQ, resources (such as links to the text of various stories) can be found here, and of course feel free to ask the mods anything at: onceupon@fandom.exchange

Please be specific when nominating - narrow your tale down by author or origin. Many fairytales have multiple versions and we only allow specific versions so everyone is working from the same variation.

Good: Beauty and the Beast - Joseph Jacobs
Bad: Beauty and the Beast (Fairytales)

We welcome comments on this post to clarify which version you mean. Links are great, especially if you think we may have difficulty finding the source.

Nominate! Check back before the end of nominations (Jan 29th) to see if we have questions for you! And then, Feb 5th, SIGN-UPS!

Important Dates, all times in CST/CDT:

Nomination Period: January 15th, Sunday to January 29th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Sign Ups: February 5th, Sunday to February 15th, 11:59 PM Wednesday
Assignments out: February 17th, Friday
No-Fault Deadline: April 16th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Deadline: May 7th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Archive Goes Live: May 12th, 4:59 PM Friday
Anon Period Ends: May 19th, 4:59 PM Friday



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We absolutely accept and appreciate links to your chosen canons for the final spreadsheet.
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We're building up a pretty good tag set! Nominations END at 11:59pm CST, Sunday 30th January (see countdown).

Please help us with the following nominations:

New:
Jewish Scripture & Legend - this is nominated with a Dybbuk and a Golem as characters. We're definitely interested in having this in the tag set in some form. Nominator, did you have specific sources in mind for either or both of the legendary creatures? Otherwise we will be using the wikipedia entries.

Little Red Riding Hood (Fairy Tale) - Nominator, which version are you interested in, please? We've previously had the Perrault version and the Brothers Grimm version, for example.

The White Gown (Urban Legend) - We've approved this with the young woman, the mother, and the young man, but the gown itself is also nominated and it's not clear that is a character. Nominator, what did you have in mind?

Previous post:
La Belle et la Bête | Beauty and the Beast (Fairy Tale) - We've separately approved the Joseph Jacobs' version, but there's also a nomination for the AO3 canonical, and we can't tell which version is meant. Nominator, which version do you want? Others that we've previously approved include: the Jeanne-Marie LePrince de Beaumont version and the Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve version.

Спящая красавица - Чайковский | The Sleeping Beauty - Tchaikovsky - although this is an adaptation of a fairy tale, this exchange is for works with original written texts in the public domain. Similarly, we have not previously accepted Swan Lake. Sorry - please pick something else.

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We absolutely accept and appreciate links to your chosen canons for the final spreadsheet.
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Thanks for all your nominations so far! Nominations continue through 11:59pm CST, Sunday 30th January (see countdown).

We currently have two nominations we need help with!

La Belle et la Bête | Beauty and the Beast (Fairy Tale) - there are several different versions, and Beauty often has more than one older sister. Nominator, which version do you want? Some that we've previously approved include: Joseph Jacobs' version; Jeanne-Marie LePrince de Beaumont version; Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve version.

Спящая красавица - Чайковский | The Sleeping Beauty - Tchaikovsky - although this is an adaptation of a fairy tale, this exchange is for works with original written texts in the public domain. Similarly, we have not previously accepted Swan Lake. Sorry - please pick something else.

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We absolutely accept and appreciate links to your chosen canons for the final spreadsheet.
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NOMINATIONS! ARE! OPEN!

Tagset is HERE!

Your nominations create the set of stories that can be offered and requested when signing up. The tagset is user-chosen and changes from year to year. You don't need to nominate to sign up, but you do need to nominate to ensure that what you want is in the tag set.

You can nominate up to 4 fandoms and up to 4 characters each.

Guidelines can be found here in the FAQ, resources can be found here, and of course feel free to ask the mods anything at: onceupon@fandom.exchange

Please be specific when nominating - narrow your tale down by author or origin. Many fairytales have multiple versions and we only allow specific versions so everyone is working from the same variation.

Good: Beauty and the Beast - Joseph Jacobs
Bad: Beauty and the Beast (Fairytales)

We welcome comments on this post to clarify which version you mean. Links are great, especially if you think we may have difficulty finding the source.

Nominate! Check back before the end of nominations (Jan 30th) to see if we have questions for you! And then, Feb 6th, SIGN-UPS!

Important Dates, all times in CST/CDT:

Nomination Period: January 16th, Sunday to January 30th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Sign Ups: February 6th, Sunday to February 16th, 11:59 PM Wednesday
Assignments out: February 18th, Friday
No-Fault Deadline: April 17th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Deadline: May 8th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Archive Goes Live: May 13th, 4:59 PM Friday
Anon Period Ends: May 20th, 4:59 PM Friday



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We absolutely accept and appreciate links to your chosen canons for the final spreadsheet.
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[personal profile] morbane
Tomorrow at January 31st, 11:59 PM Sunday CST, nominations will close! Get your nominations in now if you've been planning them.

Countdown to closing time


We have two current nominations we need your help with!

La Belle et la Bête | Beauty and the Beast (Fairy Tale) - there are several different versions, and Beauty often has more than one older sister. Nominator, which version do you want? Some that we've previously approved include: Joseph Jacobs' version; Jeanne-Marie LePrince de Beaumont version; Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve version.

The Gorbals Vampire (Urban Legend) - with characters Jenny with the Iron Teeth and The Children of Glasgow. Could we get some help finding a source for this, please? The issue is there are multiple authoritative (as far as urban legend sites go) sources for the Gorbals Vampire, so we would like to narrow it down to one or two that you, the nominator, are using. Please make sure it includes the bit about Jenny.

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NOMINATIONS! ARE! CLOSED!

Tagset is HERE!

Your nominations create the set of stories that can be offered and requested when signing up. The tagset is user-chosen and changes from year to year. You don't need to nominate to sign up, but you do need to nominate to ensure that what you want is in the tag set.

You can nominate up to 4 fandoms and up to 4 characters each.

Guidelines can be found here in the FAQ, resources can be found here, and of course feel free to ask the mods anything at: onceupon@fandom.exchange

Please be specific when nominating - narrow your tale down by author or origin. Many fairytales have multiple versions and we only allow specific versions so everyone is working from the same variation.

Good: Beauty and the Beast - Joseph Jacobs
Bad: Beauty and the Beast (Fairytales)

We welcome comments on this post to clarify which version you mean. Links are great, especially if you think we may have difficulty finding the source.

Nominate! Check back before the end of nominations (Jan 31st) to see if we have questions for you! And then, Feb 7th, SIGN-UPS!

Important Dates, all times in CST/CDT:


Nomination Period: January 17th, Sunday to January 31st, 11:59 PM Sunday
Sign Ups: February 7th, Sunday to February 17th, 11:59 PM Wednesday
Assignments out: February 19th, Friday
No-Fault Deadline: April 18th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Deadline: May 9th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Archive Goes Live: May 14th, 4:59 PM Friday
Anon Period Ends: May 21st, 4:59 PM Friday



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We absolutely accept and appreciate links to your chosen canons for the final spreadsheet.
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[personal profile] morbane
Thank you for all your nominations!

Over the next few days, we'll put together a spreadsheet of tales and sources. Please keep an eye out for that in case you'd like to suggest a preferred source for your favourite tales.

Here's the tag set!

Sign-ups will open next week.

In the meantime, please feel free to ask us any questions, or potentially, to start writing your requests and/or letters!

See previous requests: 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019, for inspiration.

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morbane: Picture of girl riding bear with text "Co-Mod" (onceuponfic)
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Hi all! Nominations for this year's round close at 11:59pm CST on February 2, or just over a day from now.

See that time in your time zone
See a countdown

We still have some issues with Swan Lake (please pick something else) and Ancient Greek Religion & Lore (too broad). Please see the previous post.

We've gone through and done some tweaking, towards more consistency in fandom labels. Here's what's been changed - please let us know if it causes problems.

PreviousNow
The Alphabet of Ben SiraLilith and Adam (The Alphabet of Ben Sira)
Childe Rowland (Joseph Jacobs)Childe Rowland - Joseph Jacobs
Contest of the Fairies (Fairy Tale)Rosanella - Anne Claude de Caylus
Fearsome Creatures of the Lumberwoods (Book)Fearsome Creatures of the Lumberwoods with a Few Desert and Mountain Beasts - William T. Cox
Frog Prince - Grimm BrothersThe Frog Prince - Brothers Grimm
The Happy Prince - Oscar Wilde (fairy tale)The Happy Prince - Oscar Wilde
Inanna's descent to the nether worldInanna's Descent to the Nether World (Sumerian Mythology)
Kojiki (An Account of Ancient Matters)Izanagi and Izanami Marry and Bear Their First Offspring (Kojiki | An Account of Ancient Matters)
Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight- Child Ballad 4Lady Isabel and the Elf Knight (Traditional Ballad)
Little Briar Rose (Brothers Grimm Sleeping Beauty)Little Brier-Rose - Brothers Grimm
Loreley - Heinrich Heine (Poem)Loreley - Heinrich Heine
Rapunzel (Brothers Grimm)Rapunzel - Brothers Grimm
Snow-white and Rose-red - Grimm BrothersSnow-white and Rose-red - Brothers Grimm
Snowdrop - Grimm BrothersSnowdrop - Brothers Grimm


Really excited at the breadth of what's been nominated already!

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NOMINATIONS! ARE! CLOSED! Sign ups soon!

Tagset is HERE!

Your nominations create the set of stories that can be offered and requested when signing up. The tagset is user-chosen and changes from year to year. You don't need to nominate to sign up, but you do need to nominate to ensure that what you want is in the tag set.

You can nominate up to 4 fandoms and up to 4 characters each.

Guidelines can be found here in the FAQ, resources can be found here, and of course feel free to ask the mods anything at: onceupon@fandom.exchange

Please be specific when nominating - narrow your tale down by author or origin. You can also comment on the post here to clarify which version you mean, and give us links, especially if you think we may have difficulty finding the source.

Nominate! Check back before the end of nominations (Feb 2nd) to see if we have questions for you! And then, Feb 9th, SIGN-UPS!

Important Dates, all times in CST/CDT:

Nomination Period: January 19th, Sunday to February 2nd, 11:59 PM Sunday
Sign Ups: February 9th, Sunday to February 19th, 11:59 PM Wednesday
Assignments out: February 21st, Friday
No-Fault Deadline: April 19th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Deadline: May 10th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Archive Goes Live: May 15th, 4:59 PM Friday
Anon Period Ends: May 22nd, 4:59 PM Friday


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Edit: Since it's been asked, we absolutely accept and appreciate links to your chosen canons for the final spreadsheet.
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[personal profile] crantz


NOMINATIONS! ARE! OPEN! CLOSED!

Tagset is HERE!

Your nominations create the set of stories that can be offered and requested when signing up. The tagset is user-chosen and changes from year to year. You don't need to nominate to sign up, but you do need to nominate to ensure that what you want is in the tag set.

You can nominate up to 4 fandoms and up to 4 characters each.

Guidelines can be found here in the FAQ, resources can be found here, and of course feel free to ask the mods anything at: onceupon@fandom.exchange

Please be specific when nominating - narrow your tale down by author or origin. You can also comment on the post here to clarify which version you mean, and give us links, especially if you think we may have difficulty finding the source.

Nominate! Check back before the end of nominations to see if we have questions for you! And then, Feb 10th, SIGN-UPS!

Important Dates, all times in CST/CDT:

Nomination Period: January 20th, Sunday to February 3rd, 11:59 PM Sunday
Sign Ups: February 10th, 4:59 PM Sunday to February 20th, 11:59 PM Wednesday
Assignments out: February 22nd, Friday
No-Fault Deadline: April 21st, 11:59 PM Sunday
Deadline: May 12th, 11:59 PM Sunday
Archive Goes Live: May 17th, 4:59 PM Friday
Anon Period Ends: May 24th, 4:59 PM Friday


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Nominations are CLOSED!

Sign-ups on the 9th!





Tagset here!

Please see the FAQ for more details!

Here's what you get:

4 tale nominations!
0-4 character nominations per tale!


What is this? 4 nominations? That's right! We've added an extra slot this year!

And if you read further into the nominations section of the FAQ you will see guidelines for this year's Mythological Creatures!

Please see this post for potential sources for both stories and creatures! As well it contains links to previous years sources.

REMINDER: Stories/sources must be available online, not behind a firewall, and legally.

Good: Aschenputtel - The Brothers Grimm
Bad: Cinderella - Disney

If you have a particular source you want me to use and required for creature nominations, pleae link them in this post!

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crantz: Illustration from Beauty and the Beast mod icon (Mod Once Upon)
[personal profile] crantz
Hi, everyone, just an update: The tag wranglers for this exchange's area of Ao3 have requested we be specific in what tales we request so I'm changing the FAQ section that says 'choose the generic, then use your letter to specify' to 'be specific'.

No one is in trouble and the tags are fine, but for upcoming nominations do the opposite of what I originally told you to do.

There is a generic Cinderella in the tagset I may have to remove.

REMINDER: Nominations close on the 7th! Nominate here!

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NOMINATIONS! ARE! OPEN!

Tagset is HERE! Click the nominate button and hop to it!


Guidelines can be found here and of course feel free to ask me anything.

Up to 3 fandoms and up to 4 characters each.

Reminder that they must be publicly available versions and not, say, Disney movies. That came up last year.

Nominate! And then, Feb 12th, SIGN-UPS!

Important Dates:

Nomination Period: January 24th, Sunday to February 7th, Sunday 11:59pm
Sign Ups: February 12th, Friday to February 21st, Sunday 11:59 pm
Assignments: February 28th, Sunday
Deadline: May 15th, 11:59 pm, Sunday
Archive Goes Live: May 20th, Friday
Anon Period Ends: May 25th, Wednesday


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[personal profile] crantz
Hi! Just a reminder that nominations close February 8th around midnight central! That's 2 days and change from now! If you've been sitting on what to nominate, nominate it now!

Nomination stuff here

ALSO:

The three problem nominations from our last announcement (@DW and @LJ) are still outstanding! Reply at either if you're the nominators - I need to know what to do about the Filipino one and the two movie ones need changed or they will be rejected.


I will be giving warnings before closing nominations.



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crantz: Illustration from Beauty and the Beast mod icon (Mod Once Upon)
[personal profile] crantz
Hey, everyone!

In this announcement:
  • Nominations that need clarification
  • Tags: What's going on there?
  • Feedback
  • Coming soon(ish)



Okay, first are nominations in need of clarification! Before I get started on this, please know that I myself forgot about the requirement of needing a story for a nomination and had to spend a while searching up Medusa's origin. I found it in Ovid's Metamorphoses.

ALL SORTED

1. Robin Hood! I found a story which contains three of your nominated characters (The Prioress of Kirklees, Robin Hood, Maid Marian) over here, I have been unable to find one containing Clorinda. If you have a story containing her, please tell me of it and I'll approve her tag! If there is none, she'll need to be changed to another character or removed entirely.

2. The Nahua Creation Myth! Could you provide me with the text/name of the story where it is? I need it for the spreadsheet before I approve. If it's not contained in an online story format, please contact me, I have a solution.

3. The Story of the Phoenix. I just need to know which one you mean, thank you.

That's it for now!



Now for Tags: What's going on there?

Well, because an important and advertised part of this exchange is that every source is available for reading, I've had to clarify some of the titles to help specify where the actual source stories are, like some myths are Homeric Hymms.

Unfortunately, this is not a perfect process! I've already put someone's story with the source they don't want once (working to fix that!) and I don't want to do this to people. But thankfully, this is a small exchange and I'm able to change things without a lot of work! So please notify me if I've changed your tag to a story you didn't mean and I'll change it to the proper one.



Thirdly, feedback! This is my first exchange and I'm learning as I go, so if you see something that could be done easier, please tell me. I appreciate the advice.


And lastly, COMING SOON(ish)!

A spreadsheet containing links to all the texts nominated! It'll be up after nominations complete!

This does not mean that if you want to blend several versions (and I will be linking some multiples already) you can't! Please tell your author as much as you can about what you're interested in each story and what you're hoping to explore with it. Optional details are optional, but knowledge is inspirational.


Thus ends announcement #1.

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